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I think I do the same thing !! LOL

In California you have to shot and hit the target in order to get a permit .

From what I have seen your are more a danger to your self then anyone else. Remember Lance they make you shoot to qualify when you get your permit .

I think your correct Steve !!

Barry now you sound like Tim . I can tell you for a fact that when you stick a 380 in someone's face you really don't have to worry about the power for the most part , he stopped dead in his track's.

This is a result of Lance shooting a gun and his slide bite.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/17/9ec63180fffa69479208039e321db2b0.jpg

I have a karr p380 that I carry when I do. also have a clock 26 stubby that I like (9mm) . I like the karr better for everyday carry because I can carry it in my pocket and done really know its there.