XP 1000 crank seal replacement

On this field I'm going to cover replacing the crank seal on a XP 1000 unfortunately the motor has to come out and taken completely apart to replace a $20.00 part..

Now there have been people that claimed they can replace the seal without taking the engine out but after further research I found that it's not a good idea because there's a good chances of damaging the cases http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...b057c54797.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...e9bc2b95b6.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...801518e293.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...8aad4daaf8.jpg

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Just asking , how would you damage the case buy replacing the seal with the engine together ? I'm not a mechanic just asking .

That's a good question, there is a machine groove on both top and bottom case halfs and it is extremely difficult to get it out without prying up against the cases. in the pictures coming up you'll see what I'm talking

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Originally Posted by Controlled Force

On this field I'm going to cover replacing the crank seal on a XP 1000 unfortunately the motor has to come out and taken completely apart to replace a $20.00 part..

Now there have been people that claimed they can replace the seal without taking the engine out but after further research I found that it's not a good idea because there's a good chances of damaging the caseshttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...8aad4daaf8.jpg

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This is the first time I have ever seen seal but was wondering if it is large enough to drill a hole in it and use a slide hammer to pull it out ??

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Originally Posted by EPL

This is the first time I have ever seen seal but was wondering if it is large enough to drill a hole in it and use a slide hammer to pull it out ??

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I thought about that as well but if you drill just a little too far you'll drill into the aluminum case.

In this photo you can see the machine Groove that the seal sits in.

The problem is not pulling the seal out it's pulling the seal with the lip that is part of the seal out together that's the hard part..

I'm going by the book on this one not willing to gamble on someone's enginehttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...268eb441b8.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...83ffe76e4e.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...623c8adf53.jpg

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True !!

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Originally Posted by Controlled Force

I thought about that as well but if you drill just a little too far you'll drill into the aluminum case.

In this photo you can see the machine Groove that the seal sits in.

The problem is not pulling the seal out it's pulling the seal with the lip that is part of the seal out together that's the hard part..

I'm going by the book on this one not willing to gamble on someone's engine


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I didn't know the seal had the lip in the rear , your correct it needed to come apart !!

Ben, I know you know this being a qualified mechanic on these things, but for anyone else maybe you can learn from my mistake!

Oh, yeah, and you CAN NOT get this seal out of the case without pulling motor and splitting case, BELIEVE ME I tried, and yes, I started to damage the case. The "lip" on the seal has metal in it and is VERY stiff / rigid. Digging it out of the case is impossible IMO. Plus, basically I spent 2 hours trying to get the seal out and then spent another 2 hours just pulling the engine.

When you assemble and silicone the case halves back together (RED) be extra careful around the seal as there are oil passages (YELLOW) that allow the oil to drain back to case. This was the reason I had to do this repair. My seal wasn't bad, but when I reassembled engine from previous mods I got a little carried away with the silicone (yeah, more isn't always better) and I ended up plugging these oil drain passages. When I would start engine it essentially just pumped oil outward through the seal.

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The Factory manual is VERY CLEAR about this step when sealing up the cases..

On another note I'm not a big fan of silicone never have been, I use sealer from Honda or Yamaha IMO...it's the best, I use the same sealer for the Transmissions when I put them back together as well and I never had a leak.

But to each his own whatever you guys feel comfortable using



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Got everything back from the Machine Shop having the crank checked out make sure it's still within specs and everything was hot tank and clean ready to go back togetherhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f1c9c04f49.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...15e36f4554.jpg

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Looks great, I like how everything you do looks top notch, and done professionally. If I ever need any work done on my Can Am I know we're in going. [emoji106]


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Looks great, I like how everything you do looks top notch, and done professionally. If I ever need any work done on my Can Am I know we're in going. [emoji106]


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Thank you, I appreciate that.
All the cars that come here I work on them as they were my car and I give the best service that I can👌

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Hey Ben since you no-like silicon for sealer

Can you please take a pic of the sealer you like

Thank-You

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Hey Ben since you no-like silicon for sealer

Can you please take a pic of the sealer you like

Thank-You

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This stuff works great .

All going back together todayhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9e4e2a93ba.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c2c713df40.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...83085a0bf8.jpg

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All back together and in the carhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5bcf97bdf9.jpg

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So this car has a Muzzy exhaust on it.... and when I pulled it off the car as I was taking the engine out I noticed something rattling in the header tube.
Muzzy apparently installed some type of Center divider in the header and it looks like it came apart and just sitting inside banging around restricting the exhaust flow.

Anyone thinking of replacing their stock exhaust system on they're normally aspirated cars don't bother it's not worth the money

I've witnessed multiple Dyno pulls and in some cases lost power over the stock exhaust system
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Now Muzzy May improve Kawasaki air Can-Am V-Twin engines.... Maybe... but definitely not worth horsepower per dollar game and they make a whole lot more noise

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So this car has a Muzzy exhaust on it.... and when I pulled it off the car as I was taking the engine out I noticed something rattling in the header tube.
Muzzy apparently installed some type of Center divider in the header and it looks like it came apart and just sitting inside banging around restricting the exhaust flow.

Anyone thinking of replacing their stock exhaust system on they're normally aspirated cars don't bother it's not worth the money

I've witnessed multiple Dyno pulls and in some cases lost power over the stock exhaust system
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For the most part I agree !!

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Now Muzzy May improve Kawasaki air Can-Am V-Twin engines.... Maybe... but definitely not worth horsepower per dollar game and they make a whole lot more noise

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Thank you for your input , you just helped me make up my mind about getting an aftermarket muffler .

The mufflers we're even worse ..it sounded like a bunch of rocks inside it here's what came outhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...356e3d3e0d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8b24af3b40.jpg

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They look to big to be part of the spark arrester what do you think they were ?

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They look to big to be part of the spark arrester what do you think they were ?

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In the Mufflers there's a type of oval screen that has fiberglass packin wrapped around.... looks as like that screen completely came apart

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