Transmission overload

[Controlled Force]

Its razor haven up in here after Halloween and all the failures that occurred out at Sand Mountain, so far I've been informed a total of 6 1K's blue the bearing out of the transmissions.
I have two cars from Courtney two cars from Pat and one from Moto..

Courtney's two seater needs a whole new transmission it didn't get saved in time so here's a list of the buildshttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/e7782d95e55d8e70ac020455485c8748.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/56cfa7934357badde9548bfcbd0deee1.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/6187b0315114023d95d8e66b5ad8831f.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/be48afad393566734a576101435b520d.jpg

[Controlled Force]

Not a good sign..http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/4fca627965233a9d1d4f3be954f92b26.jpg

[EPL]

Are the 1000 trans the same as the 900 ?

[EPL]

Not a good sign..http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/4fca627965233a9d1d4f3be954f92b26.jpg

No it's not a good look !! Mine had some when i took it apart but not that much .

[Controlled Force]

Here's what a normal one should look like this Pat's carhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/6177869e3634342b5d68f58d57204efa.jpg

[Controlled Force]

Are the 1000 trans the same as the 900 ?
Yes, exactly the same, the only difference is the output shaft for the secondaryhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/2fea56f06de28ddd87aedc9f7f44ec87.jpg

[Controlled Force]

Here's the outcome on Courtney's 1k transmissionhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/461654b39b4ded18968db0f28129e12d.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/dac39df3521d9d38b7e7948f79e7c81e.jpg

[Controlled Force]

I've tried to fix a transmission in this condition before by ordering a new case half and taking it completely apart sending it off to the machine shop and having it hot tank.

The result was under deceleration it had a horrendous howling noise, it ended up being so annoying I just ended up getting a brand new transmission and doing the bearing mod, noise gone.

This is a definitely must do modification unless you're willing to gamble on a $2,600 transmission, that's right they went from 2100 to 2600 gotta love Polaris lol

[Controlled Force]

There's $7800.00 in transmissionshttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/65db4c04e127886c5efb7edcb6556c9a.jpg

[milosusa]

Look like Peer bearings are good for business . LOL
Will be interesting to know , if they still using them in XPT tranies.....
milos

[Controlled Force]

Look like Peer bearings are good for business . LOL
Will be interesting to know , if they still using them in XPT tranies.....
milos
I bet they still do, I just need to get my hands on a turbo car and pull one out

[Controlled Force]

Typical area where the cases leak, just about every car I've pulled apart leak in this same area it's where team industries put very little sealant my guess is by the time your warranty is up that gives Polaris something to charge you for http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/1ca4b997aab1c3997a183691c4cbf399.jpg

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While waiting for the new transmission to come in I'm off to Corey 4 seater 1khttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/7106364c232062b32d2ed94a8e244d59.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/4311f5c7a93365b74dd116ea7129417e.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/32e3dfedc8d5d2aa2ac9cc694870cd5f.jpg

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[milosusa]

Typical area where the cases leak, just about every car I've pulled apart leak in this same area it's where team industries put very little sealant my guess is by the time your warranty is up that gives Polaris something to charge you for http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/1ca4b997aab1c3997a183691c4cbf399.jpg

I think they use blind guy to put sealant on surface. LOL when I did my 1000 the sealant was completely missing on bottom....
milos

[Controlled Force]

Got this one split apart before anything happens to it, everything looks good insidehttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/ba2dc8f12c2a387434baa8c446504b99.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/6b45f47e0dbeb13c8144e72a6f6b385b.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/e87ed84d9b43e819552f7a72c742afb1.jpg

[Controlled Force]

Here's a little tech tip for you guys.
I've noticed on the output shaft for the secondary clutch on the transmission that rust builds up, I'll take either Scotch Brite pad or some emery cloth clean it up really nice then take a thin coat of anti seize on the inside of the secondary clutch and slide it over the shafthttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/69555c8989de998d57ef9af701a13bad.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/85d39b4b1bd7c7b1d4cd0db61a66436f.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/24737c580a53d2db96e5d8ef5a7db9a2.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/5175317829f021ad790628783f2850e6.jpg

[Controlled Force]

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[EPL]

Yes, exactly the same, the only difference is the output shaft for the secondaryhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/2fea56f06de28ddd87aedc9f7f44ec87.jpg

Thanks for the information Ben , just wondering if there was any difference . I did my 900 before it blew , i guess it's time to do the 1000 . So they have the same bearings ?

[Controlled Force]

Yep

[johnnycat8]

youd think by now they could seal the cases up wonder if its done by robot or human ?

[Controlled Force]

My guess would be human, at least a robot would put it on evenly lol

[Controlled Force]

Up next is Moto's car..http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/003eeac5e91e405aa50e4fdbbec08248.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/eb1e90a16b4813de06245d3f4d4b335f.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/a17165d6375ff5060095ef0072a32d34.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/fd6a9c2601c53049bc183a944ff10e40.jpg

[Turtle Tim]

Going to be interesting to see what bearings are in moto's turbo tranny!

[EPL]

Going to be interesting to see what bearings are in moto's turbo tranny!

Are the turbo cars having problems ??

[johnnycat8]

Are the turbo cars having problems ??

i think they are still too new to know polaris eng claim its built better no reverse chain and who knows

[EPL]

i think they are still too new to know polaris eng claim its built better no reverse chain and who knows

Maybe we'll find more out when MOTO's comes apart !!

[Controlled Force]

Moto dropped off his 14
1k
I don't think he'll let me touch his new baby just quite yet lol

[EPL]

Moto dropped off his 14
1k
I don't think he'll let me touch his new baby just quite yet lol

Dam , i thought we were going to find out about the turbos !!

[Controlled Force]

Looks like bad news for the turbo cars ,I was poking around on Polaris microfiche, and it looks like they share the same part number for that bearing..

It wouldn't make sense for them to change to anything other than Chinese crap

[Controlled Force]

Yep.. just confirmed it, same bearings

[johnnycat8]

so much for stronger trans....lol

[Controlled Force]

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Mikes leaking in 2 places http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/c7a7b284acc9e6c8c608f53c4636f619.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/f698dbd4f55fc84405f83f22ff6fe593.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/00ba146be725072ce089beeed11bdcbd.jpg

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Pat's cars next,
Definitely a cool lookin car! http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/635140667237216e454f929364473687.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/5cc94de3285de406bb0251153dea6878.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/202c554414db5635c01d5b78d78c59de.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/6194ac4a6195bec586538862f2eb067c.jpg

[johnnycat8]

anyone thought of cryo treating the racer guys are having great luck with it...

[Controlled Force]

Been doin the freeze treatment on my stuff for years..

[gridman]

Its a good thing you have that extra room on side of your shop because I'm thinking your going to have to expand soon lol

[Bedo]

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Do you change all the bearings or just the one's from China ?

[Controlled Force]

Its a good thing you have that extra room on side of your shop because I'm thinking your going to have to expand soon lol
You're a contractor Pat, hook me up bro😆

[Controlled Force]

Do you change all the bearings or just the one's from China ?
These are the two that actually fail the rest of the bearings hold up just fine but for an extra expense all of them can be replaced

[LBR]

Thanx for all of your pictures, knowledge and insight here Ben. I personally will never have a direct need for this info however probably 80% of the members do. It is a great learning curve for all of us.....☺

[Controlled Force]

Welcome Lance,
I need some Can Ams over here so I can find out what the weak points on the car, oh wait there are none lol

[Controlled Force]

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Updated primary clutch bolt

[Controlled Force]

Updated billet motor mounts with delron bushings..

This eliminates all flex throughout the drivetrain and transmission.

Billet motor mounts anodized gunmetal grey look awesome
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[Pipelayer]

Controlled force, is this a problem that you're seeing in cars that are primarily run in the sand or is it across the board. I've called all of the local dealers in my area and none of them have been having bearing issues on the trans. At least that's what they're claiming. I've noticed on a couple of you're pics that there appeared to be a bunch of sand behind the secondary clutch on the tear down. I appreciate any info. Thx


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[Controlled Force]

It's a problem that exists across the board,,I've done a stock 900 4 seater that blew the bearing out the side of the case with only 229 miles on it and it was driven only on his farm.

All 900 and 1ks are prone to this problem.. with trannys approaching $2,600, it's not worth the risk IMO

[gridman]

Looking good Bro, thanks for taking care of my junk I will run up one day next week to at least pick up the 1K and get it out of your way

[Controlled Force]

Your junk..😂😂😂
Yeeeea ok,those are some badass cars right there,I'll do what I can to have the 900 done so you don't have to make two trips👍

[gridman]

Don't worry we will have to pick up the other two cars so I was going to bring one back on Motos trailer and then another trip when the others are done

[Controlled Force]

1k is done..http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/13/2ab2d28f38098e59a22aa8d0310e1631.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/13/5af7f7e62a58b36b4f44cd1a233fe07a.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/13/7147016cbe0021b86dea763082cc0911.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/13/259c5a27cd5b915be9c5ede41ba5f94d.jpg

[crazywatson]

Pretty convenient spot to drop of there car leaving the mountain. Lol Rzr's everywhere!

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[motosx]

Ben, throw a set of trick motor mounts on if you have some, can bring the turbo up when pick up 1k to do tranny bearings, waiting on stage 3 pipe and ecu flash and new charge tube for turbo. you find me a set of rear paddles yet? lol [emoji389][emoji389][emoji389][emoji389][emoji389]

[motosx]

Ben, did you find the check in glove box?

[Pipelayer]

Pat, that's a nice looking car.


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[Controlled Force]

Ben, throw a set of trick motor mounts on if you have some, can bring the turbo up when pick up 1k to do tranny bearings, waiting on stage 3 pipe and ecu flash and new charge tube for turbo. you find me a set of rear paddles yet? lol [emoji389][emoji389][emoji389][emoji389][emoji389]
I got a set of motor mounts coming should be here middle of the week, sounds good on the turbo car will get that one knocked out as well, just make sure you have all your 3 flashes and upgrades done so I can take it to the dunes lol yes I received check thank you.

[Controlled Force]

Haven't found you a set of paddles, but I have a phone number where you can order them from lol

[FBT]

Hey Ben this is Jeff, you did the clutch kit on my Black 2014 XP1k over Halloween.
Looks like half of my pals dropped their cars off on the way home, LOL.
I want to confirm my "place in line" to do the preventative bearing fix before Easter. Easter is the 27th of March next year. When we get a window in the weather 3-4 weeks before that I will bring it up to you and then pick it up on the way out to the Mountain for the holiday. We will probably go out there around the 18th and stay til after Easter. Please pm me your contact info, the card you gave me disappeared.
I will want to replace any Chinese bearings in there...and maybe the motor mounts. Going to have to save some $$$ for the shock work.
I'll respond to your pm with my contact info...

thanks

Jeff

[Controlled Force]

I'll get you penciled in..

Just don't cut its to close,I leave a week before Easter to get a good spot

[Controlled Force]

Here's the last car....
For now lolhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/14/8e6a24e3098e707045ebca7e444825e2.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/14/ee0f18304aead3e56764060f58bca9b8.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/14/0d18b067bedcee9f4ff94f5e9f7c206d.jpg

[FBT]

I won't. Will try to borrow a box trailer and I will bring it up in late Feb. We go early for the same reason.
Will call you first part of Feb.

[Controlled Force]

Lots of rust..but I'll take care of that

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This is one of the best sealed tranys I've seen from the factoryhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/14/c67344d8d233e3458ef82af1a9d20a9c.jpg

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[FBT]

You gotta be seeing these things in your sleep....

[Controlled Force]

Now for the tedious cleanup of the factory case sealer, I make sure it's all removed down to bare aluminum before sealing it back up with Yamaha bond, http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/14/2367359e7d8f1e8fa756011220a4ac2d.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/14/7d61a2dfcbfbd82adeb05976f2d0682d.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/14/b7192745095e0b8109a58c5061cd58d2.jpg

[FBT]

Has anyone come up with a reasonable upgrade for the reverse chain? Last time I looked Turner Cycle had one for $1800 or some such nonsense. Was just wondering, since we are gonna be in there....

[Controlled Force]

They are the only ones as far as I know making that mod..
From what I've seen people that get stuck in the mud and slam the gears back and forth trying to get out are breaking them.

[Controlled Force]

You gotta be seeing these things in your sleep....
😂😂😂😂

[FBT]

They are the only ones as far as I know making that mod..
From what I've seen people that get stuck in the mud and slam the gears back and forth trying to get out are breaking them.

Ok, well that ain't me for sure. Don't likey mud. Mud dirty....:D

[johnnycat8]

Has anyone come up with a reasonable upgrade for the reverse chain? Last time I looked Turner Cycle had one for $1800 or some such nonsense. Was just wondering, since we are gonna be in there....

some guys back east have them and lower gears too their on facebook dont know name or price ill try to find it but im sure its up their too like ben said its the heavy footed mud guys that break anything

[johnnycat8]

ben with all the sand have you found any inside?

[Controlled Force]

Never seen any of those aftermarket setups..
I would like to see what they look like up close

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[johnnycat8]

some of the back east guys have some sweet stuff. one guy made a combo lift and gear reduction that mounts at the hubs for them monster tires im going to find the info

[Controlled Force]

Innovative monster Mudder guys ...can't wait to see this one

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[johnnycat8]

super atv is selling one of the kits now big bucks...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161880657255?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82

[johnnycat8]

and the other not realy a thing for out here unless you do rubicon all the time

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161880657255?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82

[johnnycat8]

http://www.utvsolutions.net/4-inch-portal-box-gear-lift-kit.html

[gridman]

Pat, that's a nice looking car.


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Thanks big guy, by the way when are you going to set up that Virginia City ride sounds fun

[gridman]

Ben thanks again for busting my cars out

[LBR]

ben with all the sand have you found any inside?
Good question to ease everyone's minds! Ben, are all of the major seals doing their job and keeping sand out at the "ports of entry?"

[Controlled Force]

I missed this question,and it great one...

Never have seen a spec of sand inside the cases, but I have seen a ton of broken ball bearings inside lol,


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[Pipelayer]

Thanks big guy, by the way when are you going to set up that Virginia City ride sounds fun

Maybe one Saturday mid December. Depending if the weather is clear.


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[Controlled Force]

Brand new Xp 1k transmission showed up today for Courtney's car, yes I do work on Sundays lolhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/768c162a2062805ee8f9f2a0668ca367.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/c8d3ab16f870977a97e8ba5db7f95b3f.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/e467413f2092cf7cc1dfb7d74bb4e2bb.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/fb47ee5b3cd49091fe02c543760462fd.jpg

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[Controlled Force]

Look closely in this picture on the case halfs,, no wonder they leak,, this is a brand new trans out of the box😠

Way to go team industrieshttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/2db5a6700b127b9376f03eb45036008f.jpg

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[Controlled Force]

Fourm members special, brand new trans bearings for sale list costs $40 a piece from the dealer I'll sell these bad boys for a $1.99 for the pair lol.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/43c2c692f8cd9246e4f1097a8abe46b3.jpg

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[EPL]

Fourm members special, brand new trans bearings for sale list costs $40 a piece from the dealer I'll sell these bad boys for a $1.99 for the pair lol.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/43c2c692f8cd9246e4f1097a8abe46b3.jpg

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Are these the made in China bearings ??

[Controlled Force]

Yes they are...

Brand new 0 miles..lol

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[Controlled Force]

I hope you guys know this is just a joke these are no more than a paper weight lol

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[EPL]

i hope you guys know this is just a joke these are no more than a paper weight lol

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lol !!

[Mike621]

Maybe one Saturday mid December. Depending if the weather is clear.


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[emoji106]🏽let me know [emoji41]


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[Pipelayer]

[emoji106]🏽let me know [emoji41]


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Will do


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[johnnycat8]

Look closely in this picture on the case halfs,, no wonder they leak,, this is a brand new trans out of the box��

Way to go team industrieshttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/2db5a6700b127b9376f03eb45036008f.jpg

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is it the photo or the edges around the bolt holes look rounded off? and what kind of machine finish is that is it even straight?

in my days building aviation eng we used silk thread on case halfs and they never leaked wonder if that trick work on the cases?

[johnnycat8]

Fourm members special, brand new trans bearings for sale list costs $40 a piece from the dealer I'll sell these bad boys for a $1.99 for the pair lol.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/43c2c692f8cd9246e4f1097a8abe46b3.jpg

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you could weld a robot liking man or lady and they could be eyes or (.) (.)'s

[Trxracr]

Looking good Ben !!!
Way to get on it, can't wait to get behind the wheel it's going feel like a new car again. Got to love all the Bay Area people coming to play in the snow ,took me over 6hrs to get home back to Sac. after we had lunch...

[Controlled Force]

is it the photo or the edges around the bolt holes look rounded off? and what kind of machine finish is that is it even straight?

in my days building aviation eng we used silk thread on case halfs and they never leaked wonder if that trick work on the cases?
It's just the photo regarding the holes..

The surface is strange on these cases,, some have a smooth like mirror finish and others like this one have that strange grooving machined look in them..
Strange

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[Controlled Force]

you could weld a robot liking man or lady and they could be eyes or (.) (.)'s
Blahahahaha

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[Flying Dog]

It just seems crazy to me that with all these problems Polaris continues to install the same bearings .

[gridman]

I just wanted to say thanks again bro, Ben took care of lots of little things on my cars that was nothing he needed to do highly recommend him for your SXS fixes and power adder

[milosusa]

It just seems crazy to me that with all these problems Polaris continues to install the same bearings .

They probably own Peer bearing company...LOL
milos

[5150 Will]

I went down to the dealer today that's doing mine under warranty. I got a look at it and it pretty much looks like Courtney's trans in one of the first posts. I'm surprised this issue hasn't been addressed by Polaris.

[EPL]

I went down to the dealer today that's doing mine under warranty. I got a look at it and it pretty much looks like Courtney's trans in one of the first posts. I'm surprised this issue hasn't been addressed by Polaris.

i agree !!

[Controlled Force]

I went down to the dealer today that's doing mine under warranty. I got a look at it and it pretty much looks like Courtney's trans in one of the first posts. I'm surprised this issue hasn't been addressed by Polaris.
Team industries builds the transmissions for Polaris, I guess it's a way of selling more parts ....for them it doesn't make sense to upgrade the bearings, why should they more money in their pockets not that I agree with that but there is a fix for that as you well know

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[Lennart]

Team industries builds the transmissions for Polaris, I guess it's a way of selling more parts ....for them it doesn't make sense to upgrade the bearings, why should they more money in their pockets not that I agree with that but there is a fix for that as you well know

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The oh mighty dollar !!

[Lennart]

I was told yesterday that Polaris is giving a 2 year warranty on the driveline on all purchases thru the end of the year !!

[Beach Leo]

Why Good Thread

Lotta good info here

Thanks

[EPL]

I was told yesterday that Polaris is giving a 2 year warranty on the driveline on all purchases thru the end of the year !!

I was just at the dealer today about ordering my xp turbo and was told the same thing !!

[Controlled Force]

That's great and all but doesn't help much when you're bearing is hanging out of the transmission in your in Glamis ..
Ask Watson

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[EPL]

That's great and all but doesn't help much when you're bearing is hanging out of the transmission in your in Glamis ..
Ask Watson

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I agree with you Ben 1,000%.

[FBT]

That's great and all but doesn't help much when you're bearing is hanging out of the transmission in your in Glamis ..
Ask Watson

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Exactly, and that is why we are gonna do a preemptive strike on mine. I have a warranty on mine too but they won't come to The Mountain and tow it in and fix it while I burn precious days in the sand...

[EPL]

Have you done a Turbo trans yet Ben ?? If so did they have the same China bearings ??

[Controlled Force]

Same bearings..
A buddy of mine in SoCal has a turbo Xp with 600 miles on it and he was at Glamis and it blew the bearing on the side of case, it's under warranty but he was still pissed off..

Don't even think about this mod just get it done👍

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[gridman]

Ain't that a bunch of crap, I would think a easy fix for popo. But good for you Bro LOL

[milosusa]

Ain't that a bunch of crap, I would think a easy fix for popo. But good for you Bro LOL

Polaris build the cars using cheapest parts is a possible, they will not use more expensive bearings, I am pretty sure, if they can find some even cheaper than Peer they will use them.....LOL
milos

[gridman]

I guess we are all so dumb and keep buying they have nothing to worry about LOL, good for ben haha

[Controlled Force]

Hey isn't that the American Way... pay more get less lol

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[Mike621]

Polaris build the cars using cheapest parts is a possible, they will not use more expensive bearings, I am pretty sure, if they can find some even cheaper than Peer they will use them.....LOL
milos

Yeah I think Polaris has always used cheap parts, I had a couple quads from the late 90s and 2000 , they would break all the time, stupid stuff like bearings, welds breaking, cheap parts, Polaris machines from that time could not come close to what the Japanese were making, the 800 and 900 RZR's I had never left me broken down, but I had to work on them all the time, for me it was every 2 rides, I would have to tighten up everything on wheels, bearings , and A-arms, and I don't think I really ride them that hard.
Now I got the Maverick, will see how it holds up, I only got 200 miles on it, but so far I haven't had to re torque anything , and I check it after every ride.
They make a lot of money on these things at least they could do is use simi quality parts.


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[EPL]

Yeah I think Polaris has always used cheap parts, I had a couple quads from the late 90s and 2000 , they would break all the time, stupid stuff like bearings, welds breaking, cheap parts, Polaris machines from that time could not come close to what the Japanese were making, the 800 and 900 RZR's I had never left me broken down, but I had to work on them all the time, for me it was every 2 rides, I would have to tighten up everything on wheels, bearings , and A-arms, and I don't think I really ride them that hard.
Now I got the Maverick, will see how it holds up, I only got 200 miles on it, but so far I haven't had to re torque anything , and I check it after every ride.
They make a lot of money on these things at least they could do is use simi quality parts.


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Polaris would only have to update 1 bearing to solve all these problems !! I don't think it's just Polaris , all the brands have there problems !!

[Mike621]

Polaris would only have to update 1 bearing to solve all these problems !! I don't think it's just Polaris , all the brands have there problems !!

Oh yeah never going to get one brand that's perfect, all you can do is get one that you like and work around the weak links.


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[FBT]

I can understand (sort of) going cheap one ONE bearing and bringing down the per unit cost x number of cents.
But when it becomes clear that that one bearing is causing catastrophic failures in a significant number of cars and they just ignore it...well that is just stupid.
Lots of problems we, the owners, found quickly within the first full year of the car, added up to more $ saved per unit, and more frustration for us.
Then, to step up and fix a lot of problems when they came with the XPT (problems they should have identified and avoided completely) and still not upgrade one freakin' bearing is just nuts.
But, as has been said, nothing will change as long as we keep buying. the only thing that will change their philosophy is when their marketing plan fails due to buyers leaving for competition. Yamaha heating things up is good for all of us. However I plan to run my '14 for a long time, and over the years I will upgrade it to my liking...perhaps even have Ben do a turbo some day when I get the jet boat sold.