RZR transmission bearings

[Turtle Tim]

Who all has changed their bearings in the transmission on their RZR's?

I am going to change mine after a few failures others had at Sand Mountain. Just not sure if I am going to pay to have it done or do it myself. I would have Ben do it but he is almost 700 miles away.

Any advice from any of those who changed them out themselves? How difficult is it?

[EPL]

Who all has changed their bearings in the transmission on their RZR's?

I am going to change mine after a few failures others had at Sand Mountain. Just not sure if I am going to pay to have it done or do it myself. I would have Ben do it but he is almost 700 miles away.

Any advice from any of those who changed them out themselves? How difficult is it?

I did mine in my XP900 and it was pretty easy . From what i have seen you do Tim you should have no problem .

[Turtle Tim]

Ed, can you list the needed bearings it takes to do this job. I have a list but want to make sure it list all the bearings that need to be changed.
I assume they are "open" not sealed bearings since they are in a oil bath application?
Any advice before I tear into it? Tips or tricks?

[EPL]

Ed, can you list the needed bearings it takes to do this job. I have a list but want to make sure it list all the bearings that need to be changed.
I assume they are "open" not sealed bearings since they are in a oil bath application?
Any advice before I tear into it? Tips or tricks?

Tim mine was a 900 not sure if there the same bearings or not . They were open bearings . It was for the most part straight forward .

[Turtle Tim]

My understanding is the 900 and 1K are the same.

[johnnycat8]

yes and no.. some parts are diff but bearings the same. the highlifter trans is better in some ways and the 925 turbo is better yet but dont know if it fits...steve watson has the part numbers as does milos...i seem to of miss placed in my move but im looking

[Turtle Tim]

Thanks JC8. Maybe Crazy or Milos will chime in if they read this.

[gridman]

I wonder how many cars Ben has at his shop after last weekend, I know at least 3 but I bet a few more LOL

[Turtle Tim]

I know of 2 others that were being dropped off Pat. A lot of tranny carnage that week!

[crazywatson]

I'll have to find the part numbers. You'll need a 3 jaw puller to change the bearing and a press. A clutch alignment tool to line the transmission back up and a special socket to tighten the transmission to engine bolts. I made a socket by cutting apart 2 sockets and welding them together. Polaris sells the socket though. They sell the alignment tool too but there are after market companies with way better tools. Like Sparks Racing and a couple others. The socket and clutch tool is good to have for future maintenance. That is critical to good belt life. Make sure you seal the cases good polaris has had allot of leaking transmissions over the years. Oh and yes they are open bearing made for oil bath.

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[gridman]

I know of 2 others that were being dropped off Pat. A lot of tranny carnage that week!

Wow and with all the new turbos he has to do may be he mite have to hire Milos to help out LOL

[johnnycat8]

You need 2 x 6303 @ $ 7.91 each
1 x 6305 @ $10.49 each
2 X 6207 @ $12.49 each
http://www.usabearingsandbelts.com/m...-35x72x17.html
this site don't have bearing # 6010 Nachi brand

2 x 6010 @ $26.37 each

http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/PROD/Kit9812
you can get here all of them too, but cost little more

Total 7 bearings, all Nachi brand.

[EPL]

Maybe Ben will post some detailed pictures on one of the ones he is doing !

[XS-Cash]

I'll have to find the part numbers. You'll need a 3 jaw puller to change the bearing and a press. A clutch alignment tool to line the transmission back up and a special socket to tighten the transmission to engine bolts. I made a socket by cutting apart 2 sockets and welding them together. Polaris sells the socket though. They sell the alignment tool too but there are after market companies with way better tools. Like Sparks Racing and a couple others. The socket and clutch tool is good to have for future maintenance. That is critical to good belt life. Make sure you seal the cases good polaris has had allot of leaking transmissions over the years. Oh and yes they are open bearing made for oil bath.

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I guess I was lucky because I didn't have a clutch alignment tool and don't remember needing a special socket for the trans bolts .

[crazywatson]

I guess I was lucky because I didn't have a clutch alignment tool and don't remember needing a special socket for the trans bolts .
You need the socket to tighten the lock nuts on the transmission adjusters. You tighten the adjuster to take the gap up in the mounts to a torque spec then tighten the lock nuts to hold the adjuster in place then tighten the transmission to engine bolts. Not taking those steps puts pressure on the cast aluminum mounting tabs. I suggest you get the tools and do it like the book says. These cases are known for breaking.

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[EPL]

You need the socket to tighten the lock nuts on the transmission adjusters. You tighten the adjuster to take the gap up in the mounts to a torque spec then tighten the lock nuts to hold the adjuster in place then tighten the transmission to engine bolts. Not taking those steps puts pressure on the cast aluminum mounting tabs. I suggest you get the tools and do it like the book says. These cases are known for breaking.

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What year and model did you do Steve ? I did 2 XP 900's and never saw anything I could adjust ? Maybe i better get a book and check it out before i do the 1000 !!

[crazywatson]

I can't remember if it's an 11 or 12.

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[Controlled Force]

Who all has changed their bearings in the transmission on their RZR's?

I am going to change mine after a few failures others had at Sand Mountain. Just not sure if I am going to pay to have it done or do it myself. I would have Ben do it but he is almost 700 miles away.

Any advice from any of those who changed them out themselves? How difficult is it?
If you want to try and do it yourself you can always call me and I can help you walk you through it

[johnnycat8]

polaris also says to replace the bolts too

[Turtle Tim]

If you want to try and do it yourself you can always call me and I can help you walk you through it

Thanks Ben, I appreciate that. I will probably do my own. Will start tearing into it after thanksgiving.

[Turtle Tim]

What year and model did you do Steve ? I did 2 XP 900's and never saw anything I could adjust ? Maybe i better get a book and check it out before i do the 1000 !!

I have the service manual downloaded for a '14 XP1K. Be glad to send it to you if you want it.

[Beer Mod]

Who all has changed their bearings in the transmission on their RZR's?

I am going to change mine after a few failures others had at Sand Mountain. Just not sure if I am going to pay to have it done or do it myself. I would have Ben do it but he is almost 700 miles away.

Any advice from any of those who changed them out themselves? How difficult is it?

I did mine @ 40 hours before i Z1 swapped

[Turtle Tim]

I ordered all the bearings and a clutch alignment tool. Should have them by the end of the week. I'm replacing 8 bearings. Figured since I am in there, might as well change them all out.
If all the parts get here by Friday I plan on getting started on this project.

[LBR]

I ordered all the bearings and a clutch alignment tool. Should have them by the end of the week. I'm replacing 8 bearings. Figured since I am in there, might as well change them all out.
If all the parts get here by Friday I plan on getting started on this project.
Why not the other 2 bearings for a total of 10, Tim?

[johnnycat8]

I ordered all the bearings and a clutch alignment tool. Should have them by the end of the week. I'm replacing 8 bearings. Figured since I am in there, might as well change them all out.
If all the parts get here by Friday I plan on getting started on this project.

tim take the tool and a hammer the holes flat .... most are press punched out hammer it back flat on some it makes the alignment off a tad...

[crazywatson]

tim take the tool and a hammer the holes flat .... most are press punched out hammer it back flat on some it makes the alignment off a tad...
I did notice the polaris tool comes bent. It's just a huge rip off what they charge for about 50 cents worth of steel. Lol There are way better tools made by the aftermarket

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[Jack95691]

Sparks makes a nice alignment tool.



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[Beach Leo]

Buy a new RZR and you have to spend more money to repair-em, Pay top dollar and they put in bottom dollar shit in-em

That is what is stopping me from getting new-one

[Turtle Tim]

Why not the other 2 bearings for a total of 10, Tim?

Polaris uses good Japanese bearings for the other two. It looks like they used a higher quality bearing on the output shafts so they could take the higher load those bearings would have on them? Just guessing as to why they used Japanese bearings in those locations.
Smarter guys like Ben or JC8 would probably know the reason why the different bearings.

[johnnycat8]

simple answer its all about cost savings... if you can save .10 over 1 million units thats a savings/profit of $100,000 do that x8 thats close to a million bucks saved. adds up fast do this all over the unit and you now see the big pic... happens in any form of manufacturing little things like that can save a corp billions a year

[johnnycat8]

not to open more fear but their has been some the output bearings going bad too and snaping the case their too

[Turtle Tim]

Started working on it today.
Intake plenum was a PIA to get out. Seemed like I spent more time on getting the plenum out than the rest of the removal.

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[Turtle Tim]

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Factory seal wasn't too bad. Had slight seepage on the top rear of the cases.
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[Turtle Tim]

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[Ruckzuck]

Looking forward to hearing how hard you think it was to do .

[Turtle Tim]

So far, removal wasn't very hard. I like working on stuff like this.
Getting the plenum out was frustrating. Will work on it tomorrow and hopefully all back together. (wife had to park her car outside till I get done)

[Turtle Tim]

Got all the bearings replaced, buttoned up the case and back in the rzr.
The bearings are a piece of cake to replace. Had to modify the bearing puller to get between one of the gears and bearing. Space was tight and had to grind the jaws flat to fit.
Just heated the bearings up in the oven and they slid right on. Only a couple I had to tap a little to seat.
I did this by myself, and probably the hardest part was getting the tranny out and back in. It wasn't super hard, just awkward and I would recommend a second person if one is available. Intake plenum was a pain, not hard, just frustrating to get out. Easier getting it back on cuz I put it in before bolting the tranny up. Way easier with the tranny loose.
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[EPL]

Got all the bearings replaced, buttoned up the case and back in the rzr.
The bearings are a piece of cake to replace. Had to modify the bearing puller to get between one of the gears and bearing. Space was tight and had to grind the jaws flat to fit.
Just heated the bearings up in the oven and they slid right on. Only a couple I had to tap a little to seat.
I did this by myself, and probably the hardest part was getting the tranny out and back in. It wasn't super hard, just awkward and I would recommend a second person if one is available. Intake plenum was a pain, not hard, just frustrating to get out. Easier getting it back on cuz I put it in before bolting the tranny up. Way easier with the tranny loose.
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So the next one should be a snap !! LOL

[Turtle Tim]

It took me most of the day to get the bearings swapped and put everything back together. But actual time wasn't that bad.
Right after getting the bearings pulled, my daughter called and her car wouldn't start. So I dropped everything and spent some time out in the heavy rain at her house trying to figure that out. Looks like I have to replace her starter today if I can get one.
Lost one of the springs for the exhaust, and cant find it? Amazing how things can disappear in the garage!
Several calls from work that I had to deal with.
And one other snafu that I won't share here! Maybe around the campfire some day.
The actual job of changing the bearings wasn't that bad, all the extraneous crap drove me nuts!!

[Turtle Tim]

Here is a list of parts needed that member Jack95691 put together. I used this list and it was perfect.
I still have to get the new primary clutch bolt.
I did not replace the seals, and got my o-ring at the local auto parts.


Bearings - VXB.com. This replaces all the Chinese bearings marked

"Peer"

2 ea - 6303 Nachi Bearing Open C3 Japan 17x47x14 10.37 ea

2 ea - 6207 Nachi Bearing Open C3 Japan 35x72x17 15.49 ea

2 ea - 6010 Nachi Bearing Open C3 Japan 50x80x16 26.37 ea

1 ea - 6305 Nachi Bearing Open C3 Japan 25x62x17 12.95 ea

1 ea - 6205 Nachi Bearing Open C3 Japan 25x52x15 8.95 ea

1 ea - Clutch alignment tool. $39.95

http://www.sparksracing.com/sparks-racing-clutch-spacing-tool.html

1 ea - Clutch Puller tool. $59.95 http://www.sparksracing.com/sparks-

racing-primary-clutch-puller.html

2 ea- qts - Polaris AGL Oil

1 ea- Tube Three Bond 1211 or Permatex "The Right Stuff" Grey

OPTIONAL

2 ea - 7519043 Polaris Engine to Tranny Bolt 5.38 ea

2 ea - 7519286 Polaris Engine to Tranny Bolt 3.53 ea

1 ea - 5259964 Polaris Engine to Tranny Bracket 10.99 ea

1 ea - 3233828 Polaris O Ring - Shift Linkage 6.46 ea

1 ea - 3234302 Polaris O Ring - Speed Sensor 1.47 ea

2 ea - 3235052 Polaris Axle Seals 16.99 ea

1 ea - 3235495 Polaris Output Shaft Seal 32.99 ea

1 ea - 7518412 Polaris Upgraded Primary Clutch Bolt 28.99 ea

TOOLS REQUIRED

3 jaw bearing puller

Clutch Alignment tool (see above)

Primary Clutch Puller Tool (see above)

[crazywatson]

Good job. That's sparks alignment tool is so much nicer then the polaris and cheaper too.

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[Turtle Tim]

Yes it is. Heavy duty.

[Turtle Tim]

BTW...Want to thank Jack for some tips and putting together the list of bearings. His is the most complete list for this I have seen.
It will be a while before I get a chance to try it out. I pulled my front shocks and boxed them up to send to Zbroz. Need to have them replace the seals, was leaking slightly.
Also got the starter replaced on the daughters car, worked on it outside and rain came down harder than a cow pissing on a flat rock the whole time! I'm done wrenching for this weekend.

[Jack95691]

Thanks Tim! Glad you got it done. Your going to love how smooth it is now. Huge difference.

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[motosx]

great job tim [emoji106]🏻 now just add this and your good

http://sandcraft-motorsports.myshopify.com/products/bearing-carrierassembly

[EPL]

Does anyone know if the XP Turbo has the same bearing problem ?

[Controlled Force]

I wonder how many cars Ben has at his shop after last weekend, I know at least 3 but I bet a few more LOL
I've done over 40 cars so far..

RSR Performance

[Controlled Force]

Does anyone know if the XP Turbo has the same bearing problem ?
Yep..sure do, they carry the same bearing.

Already have heard of bearings breaking the case at $2,600 get your car done

RSR Performance

[EPL]

Yep..sure do, they carry the same bearing.

Already have heard of bearings breaking the case at $2,600 get your car done

RSR Performance


Thanks for all the bad news Ben !! LOL

[Controlled Force]

Thanks for all the bad news Ben !! LOL
Sure anytime lol, just get your car done..

From what I've researched so far the new turbo cars don't need that alignment bar it looks like it just bolts in one way but don't quote me on it... I didn't see anything as far as alignment tool goes on the new turbo manual

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[Desert900]

Does the 2016 900 EPS Trail have the same bearing problem?

[LBR]

Think I'll stay with my Yamaha Rhino guys.....only thing wrong with it is.....er...ah.....looks maybe.

[Superdave]

Is there a typical mileage that guys have had failures at? The thought of having the tranny blow up is scary, wondering if I should do mine before the Takeover in May....

[EPL]

Is there a typical mileage that guys have had failures at? The thought of having the tranny blow up is scary, wondering if I should do mine before the Takeover in May....


Its hard to say because I have seen them blow with 1500 miles and mine had 6,000 and was just going bad !! Maybe Ben has a better idea .

[Desert900]

Ben has mine now for trans bearings after 1300 miles. We'll see what they look like.

The stock fuel rail has a few weeping leaks. Does anyone know who might make a billet fuel rail for a 2016 900 Trail?

[Desert900]

Think I'll stay with my Yamaha Rhino guys.....only thing wrong with it is.....er...ah.....looks maybe.

Yeah, my 2002 Yamaha 660 Grizzly has had ZERO problems.