EPL, Johnycat8, Crazywatson, or who-ever knows the right stuff about 800 engine

[Beach Leo]

I know you guy's know the right stuff about rzr 800

Any-way mine is finally starting to use a shit-load of oil

last ride of 90 miles she ate 18 oz

So if you please, help me out with your vast knowledge on what to do

Keep in mind that I am a cheap-bastard:p

And I do not wanna put stuff in her un-less I absolutely have to

If its just the Valve guilds than that is all I will do

If its just the rings the same goes

Don't wanna put pistons and jug in her if I do-not have to

And where do I get parts for it?

One more thing she does not foul the plugs using all that oil

Thank You ahead of time

[johnnycat8]

ok mr leo...

#1 problem i have seen is worn valves and guides.

#2 is rings a set isnt to bad i think i paid $65 for the set..(polaris sells them for just 1 piston so watch that)

#3 most of the time if the cyl has no scars and looks good you can use pool acid (muratic acid) to clean it up . the acid eats the aluminum from the pistons out of the hone marks....remember this is a coated cyl so dont try and hone out it wont work. if its bad you can have honed at a shop but need to re coat it

parts are not bad to re ring head is a little harder because of the small size ask your mach shop if they can do it. gaskits are pricy from polaris but work great i believe head was $65 alone the eng is soooo easy to work on only tricky part is getting rings in cyl

[Beach Leo]

Thank You Cat8

How do I test if its worn guilds and valves?

Who do I send head to rebuild it?

[Beach Leo]

Compression is still way-good

[johnnycat8]

whats your at leo i belive 08 is 190 psi yours might just be the head.... any motorcycle shop and some car mach shop should be able to do it call nate at alba performance he does it

[Beach Leo]

Its a buck85 with throttle wide open

Cranked it a few times

Thinking you are right just the head need re-working

Thanks again Bro

[Beach Leo]

I heard that only the intake valves have seals? Is this true?

who has em?

Guess all I need is valve spring compresser to replace-em

[johnnycat8]

the guides are most likely worn too... pull the valve cover off and remove the rockers grab the spring retainer and see if you can move it side to side that will be a good clue if guides are gone... some people add the seals to the ex also some dont... also check the plastic rotator under the spring they wear and sometimes so bad it stops the valve from rotating

[Scoundrel]

Any-way mine is finally starting to use a shit-load of oil


How many miles did you have on it when this happened?
I have a 2010 RZR S 800. How many miles should I be able to get before rebuild, assuming I don't dust the engine or other foolishness. I ride mostly mountain trails, rarely any sand, usually at moderate speeds (10-40 mph).

[Beach Leo]

How many miles did you have on it when this happened?
I have a 2010 RZR S 800. How many miles should I be able to get before rebuild, assuming I don't dust the engine or other foolishness. I ride mostly mountain trails, rarely any sand, usually at moderate speeds (10-40 mph).First 3-4 years i had her put about 9-10 on her, last 3 year put only 2 on her

Been burning way to much oil the last thousand or so

The only way she held up this long, is I drive her slow and easy

You should be able to get 10 on her if you take care of her and go slow

[Beach Leo]

the guides are most likely worn too... pull the valve cover off and remove the rockers grab the spring retainer and see if you can move it side to side that will be a good clue if guides are gone... some people add the seals to the ex also some dont... also check the plastic rotator under the spring they wear and sometimes so bad it stops the valve from rotatingWay-Good stuff Cat8 Thank You

I am going to try and get another mile outa her, before I tear into her

Hoping to make it to winter, riding season right now, Riding season all the time in Mccloud

[Scoundrel]

Eh, I'll probably get about 7500 then. :)

[EPL]

On my XP900 when it was using a lot of oil it was the valve guides . With that said on the 800 if your going to the head it is easy to change the rings at the same time.

[The Rattler (BLR)]

When we were following you Saturday Leo we could see Blue smoke through the dust lol..hopefully you can get it fixed to ride with us at Sand Mountain

[Beach Leo]

Yep for certain i am forced to finally tear it apart, used over a quart for our 103 mile shasta to trinity ride

She has gone seven easy years with-out a lick of trouble, so that ain't to shabby

I am thinking of instead of going up like most do, may sell her or part her out, than get a 1000xp

Naaaa been really thinking of 570 Ace instead

Don't really know what am going to do at this moment

[Beach Leo]

I decided not to cheap-out, but I am doing all the work my-self, so guess I am cheapening-out

Ordered new jug, pistons, seals, rings, gaskets, from cheapcycleparts for 700 buxs

prolly get in done in June, parts will be here next week

Shit they want 2000 to 3000 buxs if they rebuild it, sounds like easy money to me

Will take pics and let you all know

How long it will take an old, ugly, fat, slow guy to do-it!

[Beach Leo]

To Easy

About 1 hr to take apart

Enjoy my very entertaining Video

Sang a song in it, to make it not so Boring





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsnV9I9Ra5E&feature=youtu.be

[johnnycat8]

wiggle the valves see if any movement id just about bet guied are worn that old... nice job on the song their leo

[Beach Leo]

Thanks Cat8

Yep the exit valves are a little burned

Going to replace-em

So while I have valves out will replace guilds

[Beach Leo]

Look how cooked that one exit valve is well done, other one just medium well

Going to replace both of-em


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[Beach Leo]

Poor Mans Valve spring compressor



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[Beach Leo]

The Valve seat where the cooked Valve was is in way-good shape



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[Beach Leo]

So looks like will replace both exits valves and intake valve seals

So now my Total cost is now up to $310.00

Hope I do not find any-thing else to spend my hard earned money on

[Mike621]

Looking good Leo, keep up the good work��

[johnnycat8]

the contact margin on the valve is way too wide time for a valve job too

[Beach Leo]

the contact margin on the valve is way too wide time for a valve job tooHow wide should it be?

[Beach Leo]

May cost less just to get another used complete head

Any-way what years of cylinder head will work? 08 to 10? or 08 to 14?

They all look the same

[Beach Leo]

Just wondering while I wait for parts

Why is exhaust valve getting so hot to burn-em?

I know she ain't running lean to get-em hot at 12 mpg

The only thing I can figure is my s- exhaust has to much back pressure

Does that sound about right?

[crazywatson]

How do you know it's not running lean?

[EPL]

Leo , just put some ring in it and get a valve job done and lets go riding !!!

[Beach Leo]

How do you know it's not running lean?Don't Really know nothing Steve

She just smells rich

Any-way got head work done

All the stuff is here

Just gotta put her back together

[Beach Leo]

Got her all put back together

What a piece of cake these lawn-mower engines are

No More 35 hp she now has about 55 hp

Took about 3 hour >>>To Easy



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[Beach Leo]

Change my air intake system for the 3rd and last time I hope

These engine would last for-ever if not for all the fine-Dust they suck into-em

Dis-like having to rebuild-em every 7 years

Fleetguard OptiAir W/Polaris prefilter and sock, should do the Trick

Will find Out!!!



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[EPL]

Got her all put back together

What a piece of cake these lawn-mower engines are

No More 35 hp she now has about 55 hp

Took about 3 hour >>>To Easy



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Glad to hear it was an easy job .

[Beach Leo]

Just checked oil in it today

She used no oil for my 60 mile Iron-Gate ride

and rode the Volcano as well for 80 miles

[crazywatson]

Good job Leo

[EPL]

Just checked oil in it today

She used no oil for my 60 mile Iron-Gate ride

and rode the Volcano as well for 80 miles

Good to hear Leo !!

[Beach Leo]

Thanks Ed and Steve

Kinda miss her not being in the city with me to work on her

She will be in Mccloud all year now and we will be hitting the Volcano many times

[Beach Leo]

Up-Date:

It took over 250 Miles for the rings to seat in. Have 450 miles on it now have not used any Oil

Once it was broken in, had more power and ran Way-Good

[LBR]

Makes perfect sense, thanx for the update.

[Beach Leo]

Makes perfect sense, thanx for the update.Hey Bro

No More Blue Smoke When You are Behind Me