Rugged Radio & UTV Crazy

[The Rattler (BLR)]

Want to send a huge Thank You to Don.. Maverick4me2 for doing the legwork and Rugged Radio for giving UTV Crazy our very own channel/frequency

Once Rugged gets us the channel number and how to program..We will keep everyone updated as we get information

[EPL]

Want to send a huge Thank You to Don.. Maverick4me2 for doing the legwork and Rugged Radio for giving UTV Crazy our very own channel/frequency

Once Rugged gets us the channel number and how to program..We will keep everyone updated as we get information

Thank you very much Don .

[Fast Pat]

Thanks Don , this will be awesome we won't have to worry about others on the same channel !

[LBR]

A huge thank you, Don....this is a premier step for us Crazies!

[Maverick4me]

You guys are welcome, lets give a huge shout out to Joe at Rugged Radios for making it happen as well! All radios (5 sets: 60watt/660+) that were ordered today will have the new channel programed into it. After a little training, we should be able to get all UTV Crazy Rugged Radio owners the added channel. Any and all who are at UTV Takeover we will try to get programed. See you there!

[Mike621]

Sweet so when you order a new set up you just ask for that channel and it will come already programmed , I plan on getting a radio set up soon.


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[Maverick4me]

Yes, I believe that is correct. I believe that eventually they will be added at the production phase like all the other channels are. I did not request this to be a private add-on. Something to consider, but you never know how many Crazies will join in time!

[Maverick4me]

Okay, just opened up email confirmation:

UTVcrazy channel: 155.160 225.7 225.7

I'm sure you frequency knowledgeable people knows what the above means. :)

[LBR]

Okay, just opened up email confirmation:

UTVcrazy channel: 155.160 225.7 225.7

I'm sure you frequency knowledgeable people knows what the above means. :)
Interesting that it is 155.160....

That is the same frequency as Rugged Radio's listed Channel 12 on Bank 1 and Channel 82 on Racer-X.....no biggy that it overlaps onto other usage of the same frequency.....happens all the time.

What I question is that this frequency is primarily designated for Search and Rescue activities, as stated in the Bank 1 and Racer-X of their 3/19/2014 VHF Mobile listing. I can also say it is used as THE Fire, Search, and Rescue for local governmental mutual aid in Lane County, Or.

While the Lane County usage has really no bearing on UTV Crazy riding activities here (except Cottage Grove, Oregon Dunes), it does veeify this frequency is a primary S&R usage frequency.

If we do have this frequency, we will need to verify we're not stepping onto local governmental toes before using in our favorite areas.....Dove Springs, Dumont, Ocotillo Wells, Shasta, Oregon Dunes, Quartzsite, Parker, etc etc etc.

I do request more info on this particular frequency from the powers to be.... ultimately the FCC possibly. If used, I feel we need to be vigilant in doing a radio check before our first ride in ANY area for a governmental overlap....JMO....I am a bit skeptical right now.

[CrazyCooter]

I wont use it. Here is a good reason why:http://forums.radioreference.com/california-radio-discussion-forum/67781-155-160-la-socal-area.html

We need to be using one of these with a PL tone:
1 151.820 MHz 11.25 kHz N/A
2 151.880 MHz 11.25 kHz N/A
3 151.940 MHz 11.25 kHz N/A
4 154.570 MHz 20.00 kHz Blue Dot
5 154.600 MHz 20.00 kHz Green Dot

There will be a little more interference and still be technically illegal unless power output is 2 watts or less , but at least nobody will be interfering with "Legit" licensed business/public safety users. The Rugged "Jeepspeed" channel is #1 on this list.

I hate to keep being a PITA on this matter, but I really don't want to be one who gets slapped a $10,000 fine and loose my amateur radio license......This is so easy peeps and I just don't understand why everyone wouldn't just want to comply. The process is complaint driven. No complaints/interference=No investigation.

[LBR]

Here's a list of Oregon licensees also, with Douglas County (Winchester Bay) 911 using as an emergency channel...this is a Search, Rescue, Fire, 911 etc channel.

Washington state as well.

I echo what Crazy Cooter said....we will not be using it neither.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?freq=155.160&action=sf&stid=41

[AlfaBaz]

I hate to keep being a PITA on this matter.........


I will be using whatever Lance (or Tony) plugs into my radio!

And Tony, you are not a PITA- well, at least not on this matter alone!

[CrazyCooter]

From my channel list, 155.160 is already in the OEM Rugged file. #12 or NARESC is 155.160, but no PL on trans/rec. This would be a good freq if you were lost and a search time was looking for you. A lifelight chopper also might also be able to communicate with us in the event that someone in our party needs a ride out someday. For this reason, I also have the three VHF CLEMARS channels programmed in my radios..... Pretty much any public service agency has the ability to switch one of those if there is a mutual aid operation. Maybe we should use one of those for our own private freq? :cool:

[CrazyCooter]

I will be using whatever Lance (or Tony) plugs into my radio!

And Tony, you are not a PITA- well, at least not on this matter alone!

I'll take that! The feeling is mutual though.......:p

[CrazyCooter]

I will be using whatever Lance (or Tony) plugs into my radio!

And Tony, you are not a PITA- well, at least not on this matter alone!

I'll take that! The feeling is mutual though.......:p

[Maverick4me]

I wonder where all the feedback was regarding channels when all the crazies were sitting around the campfire asking for a channel.... Wait? Maybe some were have a few drinks! LOL!! Got to be specific or we get what they give. Please let me know exactly what to ask for and I will get it. I know that he said it would be in the range of 150-155. But if you frequency gurus can give a few options by looking at the current Rugged Radio frequency chart and let me know, I will make sure it will happen correct this time. Thanks.

[LBR]

Thank you for everything, Don!....in the end, we will probably need to have FCC issue us a license rather than RR assigning us one. I personally want to see UTV Crazy compliant for our own, or just fall back on a preprogrammed in the Rugged Radio's like everyone does and cast it off as a super learning experience.

[CrazyCooter]

I wonder where all the feedback was regarding channels when all the crazies were sitting around the campfire asking for a channel.... Wait? Maybe some were have a few drinks! LOL!! Got to be specific or we get what they give. Please let me know exactly what to ask for and I will get it. I know that he said it would be in the range of 150-155. But if you frequency gurus can give a few options by looking at the current Rugged Radio frequency chart and let me know, I will make sure it will happen correct this time. Thanks.

The ONLY frequencies unlicensed operators are allowed to transmit on the VHF band are the five in my post above.....and only at the listed deviation and a maximum of 2 watts power. MURS #1 is Jeepspeed. I'd use one of the other four channels with tone squelch enabled to help with garbage floating around on a public freq. Pot growers use MURS radios for perimeter alarms here.......

[Flying Dog]

Thank you for everything, Don!....in the end, we will probably need to have FCC issue us a license rather than RR assigning us one. I personally want to see UTV Crazy compliant for our own, or just fall back on a preprogrammed in the Rugged Radio's like everyone does and cast it off as a super learning experience.

I don't see any problem using a frequency from Rugged Radio all long as it isn't one that is used by a public safety .

[Maverick4me]

The ONLY frequencies unlicensed operators are allowed to transmit on the VHF band are the five in my post above.....and only at the listed deviation and a maximum of 2 watts power. MURS #1 is Jeepspeed. I'd use one of the other four channels with tone squelch enabled to help with garbage floating around on a public freq. Pot growers use MURS radios for perimeter alarms here.......

Okay, so what you are advising is to request that one of the below following, preferably the 2-5, be programmed to utvcrazy channel. I will contact my Rep today.

Any further input needed please reply to this thread as soon as possible. Thanks, Don

We need to be using one of these with a PL tone:
1 151.820 MHz 11.25 kHz N/A
2 151.880 MHz 11.25 kHz N/A
3 151.940 MHz 11.25 kHz N/A
4 154.570 MHz 20.00 kHz Blue Dot
5 154.600 MHz 20.00 kHz Green Dot

[EPL]

Thank you for everything, Don!....in the end, we will probably need to have FCC issue us a license rather than RR assigning us one. I personally want to see UTV Crazy compliant for our own, or just fall back on a preprogrammed in the Rugged Radio's like everyone does and cast it off as a super learning experience.


The ONLY frequencies unlicensed operators are allowed to transmit on the VHF band are the five in my post above.....and only at the listed deviation and a maximum of 2 watts power. MURS #1 is Jeepspeed. I'd use one of the other four channels with tone squelch enabled to help with garbage floating around on a public freq. Pot growers use MURS radios for perimeter alarms here.......



In my opinion since we all have been using RR frequency's for years with no fines or problems as long as the the one we get from RR ISN'T one that is being used by a Police or emergency service I don"t see where we would have a problem !! I highly doubt that any of the one's we have been using was issued by the FCC !! I don't think the FCC is out looking to fine a bunch of people out on a weekend ride unless we were inter fearing with some kind of emergency service !!

[CrazyCooter]

As I have said before, JeepSpeed is the only one we are allowed to use and is the only one we are guaranteed that public safety will not be using since it is for use by the general unlicensed public. Why not just use this one?

[Maverick4me]

The ONLY frequencies unlicensed operators are allowed to transmit on the VHF band are the five in my post above.....and only at the listed deviation and a maximum of 2 watts power. MURS #1 is Jeepspeed. I'd use one of the other four channels with tone squelch enabled to help with garbage floating around on a public freq. Pot growers use MURS radios for perimeter alarms here.......

I thought your recommendations were for one of the above five?? Now just one?? Well, I submitted your list of 5 it is now up to Rugged to decide. Sorry, best I can do....

[LBR]

I don't see any problem using a frequency from Rugged Radio all long as it isn't one that is used by a public safety .
Bingo!...

[EPL]

I thought your recommendations were for one of the above five?? Now just one?? Well, I submitted your list of 5 it is now up to Rugged to decide. Sorry, best I can do....


Thanks for all your help Don, you can only do what you can !! Do we need to change your forum name to X34me ?

[Maverick4me]

Thanks for all your help Don, you can only do what you can !! Do we need to change your forum name to X34me ?

You are welcome. I am in the process of obtaining a programing cable and software to update radios in the field.

Not a bad idea for name, but since the X3 is still a "Maverick", I will keep Maverick4me!

[CrazyCooter]

I thought your recommendations were for one of the above five?? Now just one?? Well, I submitted your list of 5 it is now up to Rugged to decide. Sorry, best I can do....

Yes any of those 5 are fine, but #1 is already in the standard program as JeepSpeed. If you want to use something other than what other Rugged owners use, one of the other 4 channels would be best. #'s 4 and 5 will sound better due to wider deviation.

[Lennart]

Is there any update on getting our own channel for UTV crazy site ?

[Maverick4me]

Yes, I am now an official Rugged Radio programmer. I have the cable and the software and will be programing our new channel at upcoming rides. Once we have officially decided on a channel, we will have Rugged add them to the programing at time of sale. Have we all come to an agreement on what to use??

[crazywatson]

Tomorrow there supposed to have some good deals for Cyber Monday

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[Bedo]

Tomorrow there supposed to have some good deals for Cyber Monday

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Looks like the same sale as Black Friday , the only difference I can see is they are having a raffle .

[CrazyCooter]

Yes, I am now an official Rugged Radio programmer. I have the cable and the software and will be programing our new channel at upcoming rides. Once we have officially decided on a channel, we will have Rugged add them to the programing at time of sale. Have we all come to an agreement on what to use??

MURS Channel 4 or 5 with a PL tone of 94.8? Or program all 5 in there with tones so we will have options in areas with interference. Just tell me what you do so I can add it into my radios.

[Maverick4me]

I will be set up to add our custom channel (UTV Crazy) to all installed Rugged Radios for anyone who wants this added.

[Ed & Charlene]

I will be set up to add our custom channel (UTV Crazy) to all installed Rugged Radios for anyone who wants this added.
I'm using a TH 9000D

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[Ed & Charlene]

Item Number TH-9000D
General
Frequenvy Range 136-174
Channel Capacity 200
Channel Spacing (2.5 VHF)5/6.25/8.33/10/12.5/15/20/25/30/50KHz
Freruency Stability 2.5ppm
Operating Temperature -20℃ ~ + 60℃
Operating Voltage 13.8V DC ± 15%
Dimension(HxWxD) 145mm x190mm x47mm
Weight(with bracket) 1200g
Receiver
Reference Sensitivity 0.25V / 0.35V
Operating Bandwidth 60dB@12.5KHz /70dB@25KHz
Adjacent Channel Selectivity 60dB@12.5KHz 70dB@25KHz
Inter-modulation Rejection ≥60dB/ ≥65dB
Spurious Response Rejection ≥70dB
Rated Audio Response +1-+3dB
Rated Audio Distortion <5%
FM Hum&Noise ≥40dB@25KHz /≥45KHz @12.5KHz
Transmitter
RF Power 60W/25W/10W(VHF)
Frequency Modulation 11kΦF3E / 16kΦF3E
Modulation Distortion <5%
FM Noise ≥36dB@25KHz /≥40KHz @12.5KHz
Adjacent Channel Power ≥60dB@12.5KHz /≥70KHz @25KHz
Audio Response +1-+3dB
Audio Distortion <5%

[CrazyCooter]

What freq and tone did you decide on? Need to add it to all my radios.

[Ed & Charlene]

CTCSS TONES

Xz 67.0 wz 69.3 xa 71.9 wa 74.4 xb 77.0

wb 79.7 yz 82.5 ya 85.4 yb 88.5 zz 91.5

za 94.8 zb 97.4 1z 100.0 1a 103.5 1b 107.2

2z 110.9 2a 114.8 2b 118.8 3z 123.0 3a 127.3

3b 131.8 4z 136.5 4a 141.3 4b 146.2 5z 151.4

5a 156.7 5b 162.2 6z 167.9 6a 173.8 6b 179.9

7z 186.2 7a 192.8 m1 203.5 8z 206.5 m2 210.7

m3 218.1 m4 225.7 9z 229.1 m5 233.6 m6 241.8

m7 250.3 0z 254.1

[EPL]

Don (Maverick4Me) is the person that is set the freq up with Rugged Radio so he is the person that can give you the freq we plan on using !!

[Mike621]

Is it going to be called something ? I just orders 50 watt radio system from Rugged, hopefully it's already programmed. Also do I have to mount the antenna to a metal roof?


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[EPL]

Is it going to be called something ? I just orders 50 watt radio system from Rugged, hopefully it's already programmed. Also do I have to mount the antenna to a metal roof?


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I didn't , ordered there mount for the roll bar . I wanted to keep it lower so it didn't get ripped of when were out riding on some of the low branch trails we tend to ride on !!

[Mike621]

I didn't , ordered there mount for the roll bar . I wanted to keep it lower so it didn't get ripped of when were out riding on some of the low branch trails we tend to ride on !!

[emoji106] will do.


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[Maverick4me]

Is it going to be called something ? I just orders 50 watt radio system from Rugged, hopefully it's already programmed. Also do I have to mount the antenna to a metal roof?

The Channel will be called UTVCRAZY. But I still have not got a chance to talk with CrazyCooter regarding the specifics of the channel. Once we get the specifics nailed down, you can order the radio through me "www.utvmods4u.com" (with a special price discount), or directly through Rugged. You will have to request that the UTVCRAZY channel be added.

[66Elco]

Im looking for a system. Which do you recommend?


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[Maverick4me]

Im looking for a system. Which do you recommend?

This is the setup I sell the most. I have it installed in my wifes and mine.

https://www.ruggedradios.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1085_1173&products_id=2055

[66Elco]

This is the setup I sell the most. I have it installed in my wifes and mine.

https://www.ruggedradios.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1085_1173&products_id=2055

I'm not necessarily looking for helmet communication. But I do like the radio and intercom combo. I would want a dash mount for sure. I guess I need to figure out what I want. Maybe I can scout someone's setup at the Johnson LN ride with pipelayer and make a decision. Do you have a forum discount or is the price I see the price I pay?


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[EPL]

We get a discount on the forum !!

[66Elco]

What is the benefit to the intercom? Doesn't just the radio do everything with the mic? Is the intercom setup with headsets just for convenience?


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[crazywatson]

What is the benefit to the intercom? Doesn't just the radio do everything with the mic? Is the intercom setup with headsets just for convenience?


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The intercom is for talking to the passengers in your car. It makes it easy to hear them and talk without having to yell.

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[Jeepalive]

What is the benefit to the intercom? Doesn't just the radio do everything with the mic? Is the intercom setup with headsets just for convenience?


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If you have passengers the intercom is the way to go, you don't have to yell to speak to each other and if you get the headsets it quiets down your rig so you can hear people on the radio a lot better also. You won't regret getting a complete kit if you go with it

[Mike621]

I bought just the 50 watt radio so far with the mic, it works ok, but I plan on getting the intercom system in the future , it also Bluetooth to your phone for music and calls. [emoji1417]

[EPL]

If you have passengers the intercom is the way to go, you don't have to yell to speak to each other and if you get the headsets it quiets down your rig so you can hear people on the radio a lot better also. You won't regret getting a complete kit if you go with it


I used to be the anti radio person but now that I have the radio and the intercom I love it !! The radio is great to keep in contact with everyone and the intercom is awesome so you can talk to your passenger with out having to yell !!

[66Elco]

I like that kit posted by maverick4me but I think I want to piece it together. Basically everything I need except the intercom now, and then get the intercom in a month or so


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[Maverick4me]

I like that kit posted by maverick4me but I think I want to piece it together. Basically everything I need except the intercom now, and then get the intercom in a month or so

With the big sale that Rugged is having now, this may work out well. Otherwise it would have been more cost effective to buy it as a package. PM me if you have any questions!

[66Elco]

RM-60 VHF 60-Watt Car-to-Car Kit

With this kit do I need anything else to mount it to my rzr 800s? Antenna mount? Any other cables? I have a plastic roof so I'd imagine that I need a bar mount for antenna? Possibly a bracket to mount it under my dash or maybe mount it high just under my roof? Sorry for the pesty questions. I just want to make sure I order everything I need all at once.


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[crazywatson]

RM-60 VHF 60-Watt Car-to-Car Kit

With this kit do I need anything else to mount it to my rzr 800s? Antenna mount? Any other cables? I have a plastic roof so I'd imagine that I need a bar mount for antenna? Possibly a bracket to mount it under my dash or maybe mount it high just under my roof? Sorry for the pesty questions. I just want to make sure I order everything I need all at once.


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You should call over there. They are super helpful. I would say a dash mount and anntena mount would be good things to get.

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[EPL]

RM-60 VHF 60-Watt Car-to-Car Kit

With this kit do I need anything else to mount it to my rzr 800s? Antenna mount? Any other cables? I have a plastic roof so I'd imagine that I need a bar mount for antenna? Possibly a bracket to mount it under my dash or maybe mount it high just under my roof? Sorry for the pesty questions. I just want to make sure I order everything I need all at once.


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You will need some way to mount the radio and intercom , the antenna you may be able to mount it in you roof but the also make some nice brackets to mount it lower down on the roll cage ( I like it better like this because it gets under trees etc easier) .

Here is the link to there mounting systems .

https://www.ruggedradios.com/index.php?main_page=special_categories&cPath=736

[Jeepalive]

Give them a call or send them a message on here and they will get you all setup with what you need, if you order online make sure you use save10 as a discount code.